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Clord · Aug 19, 2007, 05:16 PM // 17:16

I have played LOTRO about one month and somewhere nearly level 34 it became monster grinding because so many quests needed grouping to be done. What makes Guild Wars so awesome that it is not like WoW/LOTRO game where players just play mainly for leveling and then quit when get max level and got own epic set.

Fluffyx · Aug 19, 2007, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

But jackie was likely countering the "all Priests do is spam one heal." Healing is actually quite difficult during the 4-6 simotaneous enemy pulls in the WoW instance end-game and on boss fights where bosses can kill casters in one hit (imagine Underworld without Protective Spirit)

Healing in WoW isn't very difficult at all Zinger, I assume you're talking about fights like HKM which are why healers are assigned to the appropriate tanks. and the raid healers pick up the rest making it a very mindless easy task. End-game bosses just don't one hit casters they one hit anyone without the proper defenses and tanking gear (crushing blows).

trobbi33 · Aug 19, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I played GW trough all three campaigns and switched to WoW in January. Been played WoW every since. I have 1 Lvl 70 and a few Alts. It is a really fun PvE game but last night I played GW because I plan on playing GWEN. Boy I really missed this game. It took me some time to re adjust but once I did I remember why I loved this game. Now I'm not giving up WoW all together but I will playing GW again. Now just to build my guild up again lol.

Both games have a lot to offer. I just can't wait till GW2 comes and hopefully get the best of both worlds and not pay monthly for it.

Bryant Again · Aug 19, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

LOL HI DREAMRUNNER!

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Originally Posted by Traveller

Say it with me:

No. Monthly. Fees.

And there you have it.

And that means no GMs, no Auction Houses, no monthly content....No lots of stuff.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Reread what I said. Guilds won't give loot to newbies.

...So, your guild won't let you roll on loot, or something? Find another guild?

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

The Wand is a lv. 70 green, and the only "upgrade" (actually a sidegrade) is a lv. 67 Blue. Color isn't everything.

Then get into that arena and work your ass off, son! Find a SP and go pwnface. And there're plenty o' upgrades to go for, not sure what you're talkin' bout.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

The only update to that trinket requires 41 Heroic Badges. Right. It's kinda impossible to get a PuG since there's a tank and healer shortage (one of the things that I like GW is the Henchman system...)

Why're you looking for PUGs? PUGs = formula to disaster. Just like in GW, if you want to progress through the game, you'll need reliable people to do so. PUGs are not reliable.

And keep in mind, the reason there *are* henchmen in the game is because the game can't be soloed. You need party members for every area, and there are just not enough real people for that. I'm sure if the explorable areas were able to be soloed, that there wouldn't be any henchmen or heroes.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Not true. Most end-game raids bring 1 Shadow Priest for Shadow Vunerability (+15% Shadow Damage) and Misery (+5% Spell Damage), and in PvP, they are still quite formidable.

Shadow Priests are awesome in 2v2 with a Warlock, and still very solid in instances. Moreso in raids.

Nemo the Capitalist · Aug 19, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

both games suck play Everquest..Both WoW and Guildwars are ripoffs of em

Alazardragoon · Aug 19, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Its impressive that so many players in Guild wars forums support wow as a better game, I think its a better game as well overall I think this is kinda funny for WoW players check it out. This guy is into wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk

Guardian of the Light · Aug 19, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Hmm I think has been the most mature Guild Wars vs WoW thread so far. However sadly that isn't saying much.

Personally I think the best arguement so far is that WoW = PvE and Guild Wars = PvP because well when my guildies don't have enough for GvG they often play Wow. However as soon as we get 8 on vent we automatically get a GvG set up.

bamm bamm bamm · Aug 19, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Personally I think the best arguement so far is that WoW = PvE and Guild Wars = PvP

I absolutely agree with that. I feel that WoW was built from the ground up to have a rich PvE experience to the detriment of its PvP, which they then later took measures to fix. GW was built to be a competitive and balanced PvP oriented game to the detriment of its PvE, which they later tried to improve upon. I think Anet hated certain things they saw as 'standard' in the MMORPG template but went a little too far in the other direction coming up with an alternative. I also think they will crack it for GW2 though.

It's good to see people not slagging off WoW as much here. There's nothing wrong with disliking it but doing so just because you play GW is pretty stupid. I have a feeling these people are the same ones that ally themselves with a particular console and flame the rest, while the grownups just go out and buy all of them.

Just because I play GW doesn't mean I have to turn in my Blizzard fanboy card.

keli · Aug 19, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

pros :
GW:
very nice graphic
very good pvp and balance (complain just complain its still reallygood)
new features every month (anyway who needs an auction house? just lazy ppl need it)
story line
thousands and thousands skills
grind free (just optional grind so dont cry pls (+ eotn isnt here yet)
no monthly fee
instances (optional somebody likes it somebody not)
free travel between cities

WoW:
freedom (jumping. ... ..)
machines+travel (zeppelin griffon ...)
mount
intresting instances (like chess, i hope we will see some of these types in eotn)

cons:
GW:
freedom
pve after 3rd char
bugs (mallyx, dupes hacks)

WoW:
monthly fee
grind
grind
grind
graphic
quests (grind)
deaths
lootmaster thingy
sux pvp

this is my opinion so IMO

kradens · Aug 19, 2007, 10:30 PM // 22:30

does wow have loot-scaling?

Xx_Sorin_xX · Aug 19, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Which game will be more fun and rewarding to a PvP crazy gamer?

the PvP aspect of Guild Wars blows WoW's PvP out of the water, so if your going to pick one on that reason alone, Guild Wars is a much better choice.

Zinger314 · Aug 19, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by keli

(anyway who needs an auction house? just lazy ppl need it)

Uh...what? I'd prefer spending my playing time actually, you know, playing the damn game instead of spamming for hours on end.

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Originally Posted by kradens

does wow have loot-scaling?

Nope. What you kill by yourself is what you get. Some people solo low-level instances for massive loot.

Etta · Aug 19, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

OP, have you even try to run GW with bootcamp yet?

Solas · Aug 19, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

tbh GW is better once you WoW is alot of fun until you hit around lv.38 then it is constant grinding with the odd quests that help.

you have amybe 3 months to get to lv.70 until the game begins and then another 2 months roughly to get to lv.80 (next exp.)

so around 5 months to get a char lv.80, then start grinding for your armour.

but thb gw missions takea around 30 min avg. instances take around 2-3 hours.

in WoW there always at least 1.30 min so you need a proper party.

keli · Aug 19, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by kradens

does wow have loot-scaling?

"-.- ? (wow has loot master anyway)

loot scaling is actually a good thing, i like low prices and i like that 15k armors are now not that easy to buy

keli · Aug 19, 2007, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Uh...what? I'd prefer spending my playing time actually, you know, playing the damn game instead of spamming for hours on end.

Nope. What you kill by yourself is what you get. Some people solo low-level instances for massive loot.

i like spamming in towns but its just me

and you can gather money by opening chests and farming goldies fdss and such

in gw: what you kill by yourself is whaty you get. but you dont get as much as in team and in team you get 1/8 so its fair (its still easy to make money)

and zinger do u enjoy saying shit things to gw in a gw fanforum? go play wow and pay much money for it (and yes im your mother)

boko · Aug 19, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon

Hello. I have a question, and I'd really like some input from people that have some amount of experience in both.

I recently got a new computer, switching from a Windows OS to a Mac OS. Guild Wars is not compatible with Macs, so I didn't have a game to play... other than World of Warcraft, which I had just started. My older computer was incredibly slow and had tons of problems, but the graphics on this computer are A-MAY-ZING, so the only problems I ever have are server lag and the occasional disconnect.

But now, I have Bootcamp working on my Macbook, allowing me to reinstall guild wars if I want to. The problem is that I need to dedicate myself to one game or the other. If I split time between the two, I'll either end up being mediocre at both or spending WAY too much time playing and my grades (college sophomore) will suffer.

Which game should I choose? GW: EotN is coming out incredibly soon, but WoW: WofLK is not too far off. Game balance in GW was atrocious when I stopped playing, but I practically had an orgasm when I saw the recent skill updates. Which game will be more fun and rewarding to a PvP crazy gamer?

Seriously, if you are worried about school grades, then AVOID WoW at all cost! WoW is a serious life-eater!

In term of PVE Gameplay and fun, WoW > GW. But GW has its good points too. If you prefer a game that you can play at your own time, GW is the game to go. It is like many said already, awfully casual. But if you are the type that want to talk to people and prefer the social aspect of MMO over gameplay, then WoW is the better choice, but that's also where you will get sucked in. e.g Just to help a buddy, you will spend a bit more time in the game and boom! You've just spent more time than you ever planned to already.

And about PvP, I would not recommend any of those 2 games for PvP. I can tell you that I have been playing GW PvP a lot, and tell you that it gets awfully stale after a while. I'd suggest another game like Gears of war or a DoD , or even DoTA for PvP fun TBH. Faster and much more fun IMO. But that's only my preference.

Try the Preview weekend for GWEN, then decide for yourself which one is better suited for you, and your time-table.

MithranArkanere · Aug 19, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Toon like models, ridiculous enemies, grind that tends to infinite... who cares about WoW?

Malice Black · Aug 20, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Toon like models, ridiculous enemies, grind that tends to infinite... who cares about WoW?

Have you actually played WoW though?

Yes the animation is a bit "cartoonish" but once you start playing you see past it.

Ridiculous enemies? nah raids are huge fun, the wait however isn't.

Grind - yea there is grind, but as WoW's 9million subscriptions points out..people like grind. I liked the level cap also. I'm a 1 char kind of person. I can't roll out char after char like some people. WoW let me play one char and not get bored doing it.

Meh anyway..I reinstalled EVE..there goes my free time

just waiting for some skills to level then I'm good to go.

MithranArkanere · Aug 20, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Nay. They are there just because Blizzard and because many others are there.
Once they start palying, the feel like they can't leave.

You can leave GW for ages and come back later and you'll still love this. And you'll need to pay no fines.